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Carol Arnold's avatar

Agree. But the elders and congregations (or some people in the congregation) also have dreams of what the church could be doing. Or should be doing. Or is doing! They want to share those visions with the pastor, who then can evaluate whether the visions of others are valid, useful and Spirit-led. And be challenged in a good way, not pressured.

Randall R. Greenwald's avatar

A very, very good point. Another pastor the other day, when I asked him to describe leadership, his first comment was "listening." His second was being willing to admit that he is wrong.

Randall R. Greenwald's avatar

A very, very good point. Another pastor the other day, when I asked him to describe leadership, his first comment was "listening." His second was being willing to admit that he is wrong.

Barbara Melosh's avatar

So thoughtful and encouraging. I think too when the focus is on growth in numbers we can lead our congregations and ourselves into scarcity thinking—that we don’t have enough. That WE are not enough. And congregations get worn out by repeated exhortations to embrace the latest church growth program—and disheartened by the implicit message that they’re not good enough as they are.

Randall R. Greenwald's avatar

That we are not enough. How often have I felt that. Thanks. I always value your affirmation.